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  CNN    Piers Morgan Tonight    News/Business.  (2013) New.  

    January 3, 2013
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blitzer while you're at it. he's starting to look like the guy on the zigzag packet. >> first, let's see the zigzag packet of which mr. kimmel speaks. all right. there might be a slight resemblance. the zigzag guy might look a little younger. it's hard to tell. i was talking to jimmy kimmel about this at a white house correspondence dinner and i asked him about his story about my "ridiculist" outburst. >> the man legalizing marijuana, you're accusing me of being high? >> i'm not accusing. i'm just trying to explain that fit. i mean, maybe you're secret leanne der son snooper or something, anderson coop dog. i'd love to believe that you're high right now. i really would. >> did you smoke before you went on the stage? >> not before. >> not before. well, they say the white house correspondence dinner is a nerve
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prom. is there a stoner prom? that is if anyone remembered to show up. until then, we'll always have the "ridiculist". that does it for us tonight. we're going to see you in one hour. piers morgan starts right now. tonight, the biggest names of 2012. my conversations with world leaders. >> the question was, do you believe that israel -- >> translator: sure but i will get to that answer. don't be in such a hurry. >> do you trust. >> not on this i don't. >> the world peace is something almost that's become a profession. peace, peace, piece. >> headline makers. >> if the president didn't know exactly what happened, he sure as hell should have. >> candidates. >> i was the perfect candidate for america. >> what if mitt romney isn't the best person? >> the idea that somehow making a business profitable is different than helping people is really a foreign idea. >> and more.
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>> it's ridiculously easy for someone to purchase a gun. >> do you think homosexuality is a sin? >> i think that it's -- it's unnatural. >> did you wake up this morning and have a quick -- you know? >> well, i probably did. i probably did. >> piers morgan tonight newsmakers starts right now. good evening. one of the great things about my job is every night i get to sit down with movers and shakers. the men and women at the center of the biggest stories of the year, the world leaders, lawmakers, celebrities, and people who never expected to find themselves in the spotlight. what do they have in common? they are utterly fascinating. tonight we begin with the big man himself, new jersey governor chris christie. he found himself in a little bit of hot water for making nice with president obama. good evening. breaking news, superstorm sandy
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crashing ashore new jersey. two million people without power. i watched these extraordinary scenes over new jersey today. really quite unprecedented. i've never seen anything quite like it. have you ever seen anything like this in your lifetime? >> no, i haven't. you know, you see sights like the seaside boardwalk where the program the jersey shore is filmed. the boardwalk is gone. amusement rides, roller coaster in the ocean. it's incredible. homes destroyed. it's an awful thing. >> you've taken charge, as you've always done in these situations, and in a very impressive way. people have been surprised that you've been so out spokenly supportive and praise worthy of the president. i'm not surprised, knowing you,
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but explain why you were happy to did so close to an election when some people will say that wasn't the best thing to do. >> this is much more important than the election, piers. this is the livelihood of the people of my state. and when the president does things that deserve praise, i will give him praise and when the president does things that deserves scorn, i'll give him scorn. i think people know that about me. but i am not going to play politics with this issue. this is so much bigger than an election. this is the livelihood of the people of my state. what they expect me to do is get the job done and when someone asks me an honest question, i give them an honest answer. the president has been outstanding on this and i look forward to seeing him tomorrow so he can see for himself what this hurricane has done to my state. >> the attacks of libya killed ambassador stevens. >> clearly the death of ambassador stevens continues to reverb great and the truth or
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other wise of the circumstances leading up to his death still seems to be pretty vague, to put in mild lie. where do you think we're with this? >> let me tell you what is not vague. that is, give days after -- five days after what was very quickly determined by the intelligence committee as a terrorist attack, they trotted out our ambassador to the u.n. to every major news outlet saying that this was a spontaneous protest because of a video. that's probably one of the worst things that i have ever observed in my life and obviously there were warnings and obviously anybody who believes that an attack with mortars and rocket-propelled grenades in a very sophisticated attack is a result of a video is -- i mean, it's just ridiculous. and finally, piers, it's not the video that is stoking these demonstrations. it's the radical islamists that
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are using the videos as a means of inflaming passion in the middle east and i'll be dammed if i'm ready to abandon the freedom of speech because it might offend the prophet mohammed. >> we've heard calls for ambassador rice to resign. are you in favor of that? >> no. i think she was shooting the messenger. she was told to go out and do that. i blame the secretary of state. i blame the operatives in the white house and i blame our national security adviser. if the president didn't know exactly what happened, he sure as hell should have. >> cia director david petraeus, steps down after cheating on his wife. tonight his stunning resignation. >> there is a theory that, look, come on, we've had great generals, they all had affairs. is there any modern digital era
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unraveling this stuff that is the problem? what do you say to that? >> well, i don't think the idea of the problem is that general petraeus had an affair. i think the idea and the problem is that he was director of the cia and he walked into one of the most blackmailable situations that you can. it's good that the fbi found out about it before the russians or the chinese. that's the problem. it's not that he's a general messing around even accord to the uniform code of justice that's not allowed. that's not what the press is focused on. >> the fiscal cliff, 36 days to go before taxes kick in grover, only you in america believes that there has to be what i believe to be absolute pledge for life about these kinds of things. surely the nature of the modern world is very fast moving, it's
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changing a lot. america clearly has huge economic problems heading for another fiscal cliff. everyone laughing at you from afar, the american public is sick and tired of all of the games going on and there you, grover norquist, a very bright guy, stillress lawsuitly saying a pledge is a pledge is a pledge, it cannot be broken when many in your path are saying, you know what, it doesn't make sense to have thatress lawsuit position anymore. >> two things. the pledge is not for life. and everybody who signed the pledge, including peter king, shame on him as the new york sunset. i hope his wife understands that commitments last a little longer than two years or something. the commitment from the pledge -- >> whoa. hang on. hang on. that was a bit below the belt, grover. >> hey, if you think a commitment is not for as long as you make it for, the commitment for the pledge, as peter king well knows when he signed it is
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that as long as you're in congress, you will reign in spending. it's only as long as you're in the house or senate. if he stayed too long, that's his problem. but you you don't tell the barng, oh, the mortgage, wasn't that a long time ago? if you make a commitment, you keep it. coming up, was mitt romney done in by his own party in when we come back, republican presidential candidates who inflicted conflict on him more than president obama. let's go back to the empty chair which was supposed to be todd akin talking to me about why he said what he said about rape and women. since it's just a chair, might as well toss out a question. my question would be, why were you such an offensive idiot to women and the second obvious question which of course, has to go to the chair which would be why haven't you resigned yet? anyway, let's leave it there, shall we? thank you so much. i appreciate it. i'll be right back.
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whether i earned your vote or not, i have listened to you. i have learned from you. and you've made me a better president. and with your stories and your struggles, i returned to the white house more determined and
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more inspired than ever about the work there is to do and the future that lies ahead. >> that's president obama delivering his victory speech on election night. in the end, the race wasn't even close despite the poor state of the economy. mitt romney never had a chance. i spoke to gop contenders feasting on their own during one of the primaries. isn't the american way that if somebody gives you a smack on the nose, you eventually have to smack them back? and isn't it time now for you to accept that this negativity has pounded you into a position whereas much as you'd like to keep it positive, isn't it time you get the old gingrich fist out and give romney a good old smack. >> henry truman when he was so far behind that gallup quit tooking polls mid-september, the crowd will yell out, give them
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hell, harry. and he said i just give them the truth and it hurts like hell. i think mitt romney is such clearly a moderate and he's done so many defensible things in the primary, i don't have to go negative. all i have to do is point out facts. i think the next few weeks will be a lot of fun, they will be very interesting. my only request with mitt is that he be honest with the country. >> america clearly needs someone with a good business brain. the economy remains in the tank. you went after mitt romney today about his work at bain capital. you called him agreed dee wall street so-and-so. should you be on that side of the coin given that you're a texas governor, a good businessman yourself? if mitt romney now wins the
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nomination, haven't you just landed barack obama a perfect stick to beat him with? >> well, there is a real difference between a venture capitalist and a vulture capitalist. bain capital, on the other hand it appears to me were vulture capitalists all too often. i don't get confused for a minute that barack obama and his team wouldn't attack mitt romney on that during a general election if he makes it that way. so if nothing else, we're doing mitt a favor by exposing him early on so that he can either figure out how to defend that or, more importantly, and better from my perspective, he's not the nominee to begin with. >> rush limbaugh did call a law student a slut and prostitute to have insurance cover for her contraceptive.
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you would view that as pretty offensive? >> of course not. well, of course. as i said before. but, again, i'm not going to spend -- i don't want to spend my time talking about how we can grow the economy. what i'd like to talk about which is offensive, which is governor romney out there for almost a year telling the people in the republican primary that he never advocated that romney care would be a federal model. that he never advocated for an individual mandate that government at the federal level require people to buy insurance and now we find on several occasions, just in the past week, article after article, interview after interview where governor romney did just that in 2009. >> now, too me, that's offensive. >> is he a liar, then? >> well, this goes to the snob/snobbish issue, which is, you know, he clearly did not tell the truth. you don't necessarily go and
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accuse the person of -- on a personal level. you describe the action. i did and i ak kwat ree described governor romney did not tell the truth to the republicans at the debates serially telling people that he did not do what we now know he did repeatedly. >> i think not telling the truth repeatedly is lying, isn't it? >> i'll let you frame that one and take responsibility for it. i said all i'm going to say on this. >> are you disappointed that there is no bona fide tea party candidate left in the ras? >> i am very happy to get behind any of these candidates because i want to have a unifying voice. we will unify as a party. we very shortly will be bat tenning down the hatches behind whoever our bearer will be. >> my guess is, if you all sat down for dinner, the person you would be nodding with most would
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be rick santorum. would that be a misreading? >> i like rick santorum a lot. but i like mitt romney, i like newt gingrich and ron paul. >> who do you most agree with? >> i think my opinions were fairly forthright throughout the debate and i felt quite honestly i was the perfect candidate for america but that didn't happen and so really, quite honestly, which ever candidate it is, i will be happy to back. >> if you are so very hem mentally against the vanguard of obama care, mitt romney is the least that you would endorse because of his own health care plan? >> i think that's the positive difference i made in this campaign. now mitt romney's answer is that le get behind a full scale repeal. whoever our nominee is they have all agreed verbally to repeal obama care and now it's time for us to hold our nominees' feet to the fire. >> talking about competition, if i were prescribing some medicine
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for you right now congressman, i would say the situation is pretty terminal. why don't you just do the deebt thing and pull out? why are you staying in the race? >> why don't you do the decent thing and not pester me with silly questions like that? that would be decent of you 679. >> hang on. the latest gallup poll has you at 9%. mitt romney is at 39%. >> wait. what you're looking for are delegates. and we're doing quite well. >> let's see how well you're doing. ron paul, 71. >> what about the states that are still working through the process, which is most of them. right now we're doing something in washington and north dakota.
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and now in nevada and even through the process our people are in the right places and they are doing things to become a delegate. it's way too soon for you for anybody. besides, just because somebody is in second or third place, there's a race going on. what if mitt romney isn't the best person? >> people have tried to portray you as a kind of ruthless money machine who some failed, some succeeded, you didn't care, you still got your fees or you made a ton of money but actually quite a few of the companies have failed. a lot of people have lost their money. to me the key question is, do you know instinctively from your recollection how many of those companies that you went into would have failed anyway if you hadn't? >> well, there's no question but a number of places where we went
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in and invested, we were investing in an enterprise that was in trouble, that where the future was very much in doubt for it and we invested in one business. i think it lost 50 or 60 or more million dollars the year before we invested and a lot of people didn't want to touch it and we were able to go in there with the current management team, help get the business back on track as an investor. the managers really ran it but they were able to turn it around and see real success and it's still around today doing quite well and provides jobs for a lot of people. the idea that somehow making a business profitable is different than helping people is really a foreign idea because the whole american free enterprise system is associated with creating success, making businesses profitable. that means they could hire more people and grow and every investment that i made while i was responsible for an investment firm, every investment was designed to try and help the business grow and to become more successful. up next, one of the most
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fascinating interviews. ahmadinejad, one of the most feared men in the world. >> one of the best nights was, of course -- >> i'll tell you what. let me stop you. >> i can get the hair out of my face. >> that is your husband landing. >> is it? oh, how funny is that? >> let's keep the camera rolling, actually, because this interview has just been interrupted by vice president biden coming over our base and wrecking his wife's interview. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes.
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of all of the people i interviewed this year, no one divisive and despised as iran's president ahmadinejad. americans consider him public enemy number one. my exclusive interview, his answers were elusive, infuriating and fascinating. i asked what he thinks about israel and asked other world leaders what they think about him. looking live in new york city, home of the united nations, world leaders from 193 countries are gathering for the annual meeting of the general assembly. president ahmadinejad will address the meeting wednesday. he had blistering words for israel today. you have been condemned very vociferously in america for a comment that you are said to have made that you wanted israel to be wiped off the map.
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wiped off the face of the earth. in there have been many different interpretations of what you have said. you have disputed the meaning then translated from the original. let me give you this opportunity to say exactly what you did say and say exactly what you did mean. >> translator: we have been condemning the united states for many things. for having deposed a dictator with the revolution, for having sought freedom in free elections, for not allowing our oil and natural treasure to leave our country freely, and for having stood up to very dangerous terrorists in the region, for having stood up against suddam hussein who
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enjoyed the backing of many. we stood up against him and did not ayou lo the occupation of our territory. we have been condemned for a great many things. because we said justice for all, the rule of law for all, right of peaceful nuclear energy for all. >> do you want -- do you want -- mr. president -- >> translator: allow me, sir. allow me please. >> the question wasn't any of that. the question was do you believe that israel -- >> translator: i will get to that answer. don't be in a hurry. >> should israel be wiped off the face of the map. is that your desire? >> translator: if a group comes and occupies the united states of america, destroys homes when women and children are in those homes, incarcerate the youth of america, impose five different wars on many neighbors and
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always threaten others, what would you do? what would you say? would you help it? would you help that entity or would you help the people of the united states? so when we say -- when we say to be wiped, we say for occupation to be wiped off from this world, for war seeking to be wiped off ander rad indicated, the killing of women and children to beer rad indicated and we proposed the way, we proposed the path. >> what they're really saying is, in spite of the fact we deny the holocaust, we threaten israel, we demonize the united states, we do all of this stuff, we want you to trust us, in spite of the fact we won't cooperate with the international regime set up to avoid an arms race in the middle east and set up to avoid nuclear proliferation, we want you to trust us. so they don't have a tenable
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position. the reason -- >> do you trust him? >> they don't have a tenable trust. >> do you trust ahmadinejad? >> not on this i don't. >> his argument is, look, why should america be allowed nuclear weapons? why should israel who never admitted they have them, why should they be permitted to have them? why should many countries be allowed nuclear weapons and not iran? >> why isn't he going for some bigger nonproliferation initiative instead of acting like what he really wants is a nuclear bomb because that will help to get everybody to get rid of their nuclear weapon. no serious person believes that. >> president ahmadinejad struck a strangely modifying tone many felt, more reasoned than he has been in previous years at this event. one theory being he's genuinely concerned israel may do a preemptive strike. then no one can control what happens next. secondly, the sanctions related to their oil exports and to the
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banks may now be really hurting iran and he's getting a lot of heat from his own people. what do you think? >> well, i think he will be getting a certain amount of heat from some of his people, because there's no doubt sanctions are having a big effect and indeed next month for the first time iraq will export more oil than iran. so the whole balance of power in terms of oil production in the region is changing as a result of the sanctions. on the other hand, i think the recent report from the atomic energy indicates there's no sign that iran is relenting on this essential push. the trouble is it's combined with the regime that holds views and does things that most people within the region find unacceptable. >> if we cut off iran's ability to export oil and which would face them with the prospect of devastating economic blow, i think that would be an inevitable move to war and i think it would be a serious mistake.
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>> you deliberately avoided any kind of military conflict with iran when you were president. >> yes, i did. i was advised by many of our people to go to war with iran, to bomb them, to punish them for holding our hostages. >> do you still think it would have been a terrible error to do that. >> i do. every one of hostages came home safe and free. there was no one killed. we didn't have a war with iran. >> when we come back, from trayvon martin to aurora, colorado, the tragedy in newtown. what may be the most controversial topic of the year, guns in america. based right here in america. we've repaid every dollar america lent us. everything, plus a profit of more than $22 billion. for the american people. thank you, america. helping people recover and rebuild -- that's what we do. now let's bring on tomorrow.
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2012 will be remembered as greensboro 2012 will be reme
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the year of the gun. the role of guns is truly shocking from aurora, colorado, to the sikh temple in wisconsin, sandy hook elementary school where 26 people killed, 20 of them first graders. er breaking news. live at a community in mourning and shock after one of the worst mass shootings in american history. gunman walked into newtown, connecticut, opened fire. >> it came late in my life. jesse was my son but he was my best friend and buddy, too. my little boy said something the night before to me and he said, dad, this is going to be the best christmas ever, and he was going on about it and i said, jesse, you know, we'll make it the best we can.
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and i -- i don't have much family. it's kind of a quiet time for me and he makes -- made christmas happy for me and joyful, and he made it what it was. i said to him, we'll make it best we can. and the next day this tragedy happened, it occurred, and i thought to myself, boy, was he wrong about that. >> ar-15, as we've now seen from the last three mass shootings in america, aurora, the shopping mall in oregon, and now sandy hook school, the preferred choice of weapon for disturbed young men who want to commit mass atrocity, fire hundreds of bullets at rapid speed if you have the right magazines. the president of the united states indicated he wants to ban
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assault weapons like this. what is your view? >> i think we need to ban gun control laws that keep people from being able to protect themselves. the problem is not going to go away if we ban this or that gun. we've tried that. that doesn't work. it doesn't even work in england. you've had mass murders there all over europe, mass murders. >> talking complete and utter -- you are talking complete and utter nonsense. >> not wait for 20 minutes for the police to come after everybody's dead. >> what you said, mr. pratt, was an absolute lie. the gun murder rate in countries like britain or germany or australia, all suffered massacres, many years ago, similar nature, have -- they are 35 people killed a year. your country is 12,000. >> your murder rate is lower than ours, that is true. >> lower? it's 35 against 12,000! >> your violent crime rate -- >> in australia they had a
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massacre and got rid of assault weapons. >> as is the violent crime rate in australia. america's not the wild west that you are depicting. we only have the problem in our cities and unhappily in our schools where people like you have been able to get laws put on the books that keep people from being able to defend themselves. i honestly don't understand why you would rather have people be victims of a crime than be able to defend themselves. it's incomprehensible. >> you're an unbelievably stupid man, aren't you? >> it seems to me you're morally obtuse. you prefer being a victim to being able to prevail over the criminal element, and i don't know why you want to be the criminal's friend. >> what a ridiculous argument. america's in shock tone over an incident that left 59 dead. the largest mass shooting in the history of the united states. all victims wanted to see the
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new batman film. patricia, jamie and their 4-year-old daughter, 4-month-old son at the premiere when the gunman opened fire. did you fear everyone was going to die in there? >> my thought, this how it ends, this is how i die. this can't be the way that i die. this can't be the way my son dies. he's -- he's 4 months, this can't be the way my girlfriend dies and our stepdaughter dies. she's 4 years. just so many things pacing through your head. every time you see a gunshot you see -- i see it through the corner of my eye, you see someone drop. and i'm trying to like duck, just trying to get out of the way and people are falling next to me but i'm still -- i'm still all right. and just thinking, this is it. >> every time one of these things happens, gabrielle giffords last year, this shooting here, there's an outrage, and quickly it dissipates.
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the american people quite quickly go back to their normal lives and they don't demand action in the way that i would expect them to. why do so many americans not feel angry enough to demand further gun control? >> well, i would take it one step further. i don't understand why the police officers across this country don't stand up collectively and say, we're going to go on strike, we're not going to protect you unless you, the public, through your legislature, do what's required to keep us safe. after all, police officers want to go home to their families, and we're doing everything we can to make their job more difficult but more importantly more dangerous by leaving guns in the hands of people who shouldn't have them. >> big story tonight, trayvon martin, shot at close range. was itself defense? his parents' reaction to
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extraordinary new video to the night of the shooting. prime time interview with trayvon martin's parents in a moment. from everything that you have seen that you've read, that you've heard, what do you believe is the most likely set of circumstances that led to your son being killed? >> i believe that george zimmerman hunted my son like an animal, tried to detain my son. my son tried to get away. and because he could not detain my son, altercation ensued, and my son was shot and killed. >> if we reverse the situation and it was your brother who had been gunned down, exactly the same set of circumstances, and the worst that happened, as far as his behavior was that he had been followed, he got into an altercation, and he was unarmed, he just had a bag of skittles on him and a guy who was much older, followed him in the street, pulled out a gun and
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shot him dead, would you not, at the very least if you're honest and candid about this, would you not expected that person to at least be arrested, to at least perhaps face some kind of trial where the full evidence could come out? >> well, you know, i take -- i take pause to that whole, you know, conjecture of pulled out a gun and shot him. it's absolutely not fact. >> that's what happened. >> it's not what happened. >> you'd pull out a gun and shoot him. >> he stopped someone from disarming him and shooting him. george showed tremendous restraint. >> he had the gun on him, right? >> he had a permit to carry that gun. >> where was the gun? >> the gun, i believe was in his -- inside -- tucked inside his pant waist. >> right. >> in the waist holster. >> he has pulled it out, he has fired it? >> he has taken control of his firearm. he prevented his firearm from
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being taken from him and used against him and that's called saving your life. >> a week after the kansas city chiefs' joe van belcher killed his mother's daughter and himself. 70% or more of footballs apparently carry guns, clearly most of them have a lot of money, they drive fast cars, they go to nightclubs, party and all the of the rest of it. again it comes back to an overriding sense the culture of the game is slightly out of control, statistics for arrests, for example, suggest that. what can you really do about it? >> i'm not sure what can be done about it exactly. the nfl prohibits carrying of firearms at any facility, practice facility, any event that's connected to the team, make a public relations appearance in the stadium, i don't know how closely they enforce it.
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they do prohibit it. they do tell players in their stated policy while is it legal to possess a gun, we urge you not to or we urge you if you do possess a gun, that you use it strictly for protection of home and family or possibly if you're a hunter, that infinitely more likely something bad will happen if you're armed than that something good will happen. >> coming up, is america becoming more liberal? the debate about same-sex marriage and marijuana say about this country. ? a hybrid? most are just no fun to drive. now, here's one that will make you feel alive. meet the five-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max says ha. c-max says wheeee. which is what you get, don't you see? cause c-max has lots more horsepower than prius v, a hybrid that c-max also bests in mpg.
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two monumental shifts in the american culture in 2012, two states voted to legalize marijuana and same-sex marriage is legal in nine states, and the district of columbia. president obama tipped the scales with the stunning announcement that they now supports same-sex marriage. tonight's big story, president obama's support for gay marriage, how much is personal, how much is political? is this a game changer? just yesterday, clay akin said he wished president obama would, quote, hurry up and evolve faster. you must be pretty happy he reacted so quickly. >> i am. i feel -- i feel empowered. >> a big day for every gay american, a big day for every american in many ways, whatever
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reaction you had to it. how did you feel when you heard the news? >> it is bittersweet. i'm in north carolina, as a north carolinian, really disappointed with the way the amendment initiative vote went yesterday here in north carolina. but it's very promising to hear president obama finally come up and speak out on something that's so important. and i think the ground swell, the energy that was behind a lot of the activists and the people who were important in the vote here yesterday in north carolina, that energy made its way to washington and president obama realized this was a time to speak up and to speak out on the freedom for everyone to marry. >> do you think homosexuality's a sin? >> i think that it's -- it's -- it's unnatural. i think that it's -- it's detrimental and ultimately destructive to so many of the foundations of civilization. >> what do you do if one of your six kids says, dad, bad news, i'm gay? dad, bad
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news, i'm gay. >> i'd sit down and i'd have a heart to heart with him, just like you would with one of your kids. >> if one of my sons said that i'd say, that's great, son, as long as you're happy. what would you say? >> i wouldn't say that's great as long as you're happy. i'd say there's all sorts of issues you have to wrestle through and just because you feel something doesn't mean up should act on it. >> some would say telling kids that being gay is a sin, that in itself is incredibly destructive in a country where seven states have legalized it. >> you have to realize you are using a standard of morality telling people such and such of a behavior is senful, you're using a standard of morality to make that statement and say that is terribly deinstructive.
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. >> no, no, i'm not an american. seven states in america has legalized gay marriage. >> you're speaking to a man who is a christian and i believe all of us are sinful. i could stand there and say i'm at the top of the list and i need a savior and an overhaul of the heart more than anyone. that's what i teach my kids. >> cameron -- >> oh, boy. >> talk about growing pains. it was the language that he used, it was so violent, the gay lifestyle is destructive to civilization. what? that people could still feel that. >> i know, it's shocking. again, i have lived in new york and california most of my life, i was raised in new mexico and certainly a lot of people there still feel that way. i do forget that there's so many parts of our nation that feel that way. but i think a lot of it is just
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it's really lack of knowledge. >> something extraordinary happened as voters in two states said yes to legalizing marijuana. when you last did an interview on this show, larry king was the host and you admitted halfway through that you were actually high at the time. you had infused yourself of some marijuana. so i've got to ask you the question. have you come similarly infused today? >> what's today? >> it could be any day you'd like, willie. did you wake up this morning and have a quick puff? >> i probably did, i probably did, if i remember. it's that short-term stuff. >> do you take a lot of it? >> i think some people have more tolerance, you know, for smoking pot than others.
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i know people that can take one hit and go to sleep completely and other guys that can smoke a lot. me and snoop smoke a lot. and in every country we've been in, i guess. i was in amsterdam one time and snoop called me and wanted me to sing on his record. i said okay. i said where are you? amsterdam. so he caught the next plane and we recorded the song together. >> you and snoop go to amsterdam, the mecca of dope and you both do a record together? >> now we can go to colorado. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story.
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as 2012 comes to an end, let's leave you with some of the most encouraging words from the world's spiritual leaders. >> do you think the world is a more peaceful place now than it was when you first became dalai lama? >> oh, yes. >> the fundamentals of the world much better. at least with disappearance of
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the berlin wall and big change happened. so at least the two blocks both have their nuclear weapon ready to shoot each other. that kind of dang is no longer. compare that danger i think still today i think much better. then i think important, i think although the word peace is something almost become fashion, peace, peace, peace. even though some people who really making every preparation for war but they use the word of peace, peace, peace. >> what i wonder is what -- it's a very smart premise. you take a